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 No.1844954

>>1839276
As capitalism is in terminal decline it will resort to increasing violence as well as the methods of past modes of production because it is incapable of allowing history to progress. Insofar as capitalism is coming to resemble feudalism through increasing emphasis on rent, and cyberpeasant work from home jobs where the boss doesn't watch you as hard but you're expected to yield a certain amount of surplus value each week, it doesn't really matter because feudalism isn't coming back, capitalism is just getting more desperate. We're not getting Dune timeline.

 No.1853469

>>1844954
Well that is good to know that we aren't going to be getting addicted to Worm Jizz I mean Spice. But Yeah Capitalism allowing History to progress means Capitalism will be in the dustbin of history, and would rather end the world than allow precious fictitious money to disappear.



 No.1574396[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Leftypedia lived - Leftypedia lives - Leftypedia will live!

Greetings, comrades. Leftypedia, the radical encyclopedia, should be back in a usable state. We have more moderators, which will help with spam from now on, and images are slowly being repopulated for your viewing pleasure. The new domain has been up and running for a while at https://wiki.leftypol.org, and we've imported the vast majority of content that was on the old site while adding a lot of new stuff. I hope that Anons can come back and fill in any content that was lost.

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>>1814941
Thanks mate, we appreciate the work

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Hello folks, I was hoping someone could give me some decent literature on the Babiy Yar massacre in English, I wish to send it to a friend for them to study. It's hard to find anything non-Russian on the subject that doesn't insert anti-communist drivel into it and unfortunately, unlike myself, she cannot read Russian. Help a comrade out.



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 No.1856861[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What do you guys think of the phenomenon of foreigners (mainly we*terners) joining armed guerrillas against other State agents or Irregular groups? YPG\pershmega against the ISIS\Daesh, the stuff that happened in the Donbbas\Novorussia conflict (pre-war).
is it just a form of adventurism or extreme tourism, a thrill-seeking bourgeoisie vice? Actually heroic and worthwhile?
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>>1857323
Kurds are revolutionary heroes phaul saport sar unlike arap subhuman savages CNN said so

 No.1858107

>>1858092
based Hakim

 No.1858112

>>1858092
Foreigners were not joining Kurdish organisations or rebellions in -IRAQ- anon, wtf are you talking about?

 No.1858131

Tiny secular island keeps the islamists and nationalists angry. Makes me happy

 No.1858138

>>1858086
>WHO COMMITTED 99% OF THE MASSACRES
ottomans, they where the ones directing the genocide some kurdish tribes where colaborating with them but they werent directing nothing nor did the genocide helped them achieve none of their national aspirations in fact it was the opposite

nowadays is the turks who continue the strategy of ethnic cleansing and genocide and they still do it with the colaboration of some kurdish tribes except now its against other kurds and the pkk



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 No.1857892[Reply]

ya'll motherfuckers say "it's too early for PPW, think about the optics!" well I say 'really' because I don't see any other groups out there engaging in confrontation with the forces of my county.
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 No.1858042

>>1857892
You ought to read "Why is it That Red Power Can Exist in China?" and then ask yourself if the same conditions exist in the USA.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_3.htm

My answer is, PPW isn't applicable where imperialist power is strongest. There's a reason why Sison said the US communists should use the insurrectionist model of the bolsheviks.

 No.1858045

>>1858042
Insurrection won't work either, the only way out of the monoparty is through a military coup like the Carnation revolution

 No.1858135

Voting is easier than insurrection and if you can't attract an electorate, arms are a pipe dream

 No.1858137

I don’t see anyone out here doing PPW; often it seems like the people advocating it the loudest just want others to do it for them.

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I never said such a thing at all. Let's return to the countryside and build up agricultural independence in secrecy.



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 No.941093[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
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 No.1858118

>>1858117
It's not like they need to work overtime to disrupt Palestinian communications or do psyops on tiktok. They have to set aside time to slander the living reincarnation of Ernst Rohm as a homosexual

 No.1858124

>>1858118
hate to break this to you but nick fuentes is not an example of overseas palestinian resistance

 No.1858125

>>1858114
I mean, you have it completely backwards (which isn't a surprise for this site).

The political postiions they take are an expression of anti-corportism. You will discover this if rather than lying to yourself about their politics you actually look at these spaces.

I'm not going to bother extending this critique because on a Marxist website you should be familiar with it (What's comical is that you've made this post when >>1857704 this one is still visible)

 No.1858129

>>1858125
>A Marxist website
Kek.

 No.1858136

>>1858129
A new captcha should be instituted for this site in which you must complete a 3000 word assignment reviewing the basic contributions of Marxist literature to socialist thought.

Mods should purchase the server capacity and use an OpenAI LLM to automate the marking of said assignments. The capatcha is valid for 1 month, and upon expiring you must complete another assignment.

This will help weed out posters who should not be posting here, as well Tankies.



 No.1857980[Reply]

The fundamental leftist critique of religion is that religion lulls the masses into complacency with promises of a better life in Heaven and an assurance that the Earthly order is ordained by Providence and, on the flip side, recognition of the falsehood of religious belief will cause the masses to undergo a radical re-evaluation of the world, the way it is organized, and their relationship with their fellow man. But here in 2024, and in the Western world, is this still relevant?

Let's look at the first claim. Is the largest or even significant ideology keeping the masses in line the promise of a better life in Heaven? Do the actively religious actually believe that the world order as it is established now is the product of divine providence? I would say that obviously this is not the case and hasn't been for a while. What subdues the masses can vary from country to country, but at least in America (and increasingly around the world) it is not the promise of Heaven that motivates the masses to stay in line, but the promise of earthly reward. The "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" attitude has long been an aspect of the American ideology, but I would argue that it has moreso and moreso taken on the religious aspect of maintaining social compliance. First you had Horatio Alger stories which generally portrayed a "rags-to-riches" narrative based on young men engaged in some kind form of good works to rise above the poverty while benefiting their community, which then turned to Ayn Rand's stories which rejected outright any greater social responsibility of the industrialist tycoon, instead portraying them as pseudo-divine "Great Man" figures for which all the industry and wealth of the world was merely an extension of their great personalities and any attempt to direct or interrupt their great works was to invite disaster upon the world, for the world needs the entrepreneur, the entrepreneur does not need the world. This is further developed by the "self-help" movement that began to take off in the 70s, where often men of wealth would give advice on how to get rich to the masses, but this "advice" was almost never about making shrewd business decisions or actual ways of acquiring capital and business deals, but a litany of all the supposed morals and examples of virtuous living the wealthy supposedly possessed. And then, finally, to top it off we have "The Secret," a bestselling novel which posited that it is not simply being a great personality aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>1858054
while not a sex cult, i hear its members are kinda sex obsessed lol. probably bullshit

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>>1857980
>ever since Trump rose up as a political force, I haven't been able to take the religious right seriously as a religious movement
OP, you probably have not sincerely met the real religious right.
They're still around. This is your ignorance of their existence. I bet you have not even met with the Catholic scholasticism nerds or Orthodox traditionalists or Bible Belt Protestants. Or even the Muslim world which is very proactively religious. Lurk around more. You're not looking hard enough.

 No.1858105

Your point on the NuAtheists becoming reactionaries is especially ironic in the context of Richard Dawkins, I believe, saying he calls himself a “cultural Christian”. Again you have that cynical deployment of faith as a means of social order rather than emanating from actual belief.

I’ve said stuff in a similar vain before, but at this point I don’t give a fuck, people will listen or they won’t. I think the broader left has this notion that Capitalism dissolving all prior social relations, and this is good because there won’t be a “distraction” anymore from the class struggle. And I think history has proven that notion to be dead wrong. All the destruction of prior social institutions have done is destroyed the basis for collectivity and left atomized consumers in its wake. The world, the collective, it’s getting smaller and smaller. The annihilation of faith has left a void not filled by socialism, but by people consuming Marvel products and fandoms; something that’s engaged with as an observer rather than active participant. The dissolving of the nation has only lead to internationalism of capital, not labor. Western laborers are broadly going nationalist because they can recognize that the costs of global capital are being offloaded onto them: they’re the ones that are dealing with jobs leaving, massive influxes of migrants competing in the domestic job market, and suppressed wages. The rich aren’t.

The places broadly going Right Wing aren’t the richest parts of America or Europe, in fact it’s usually the opposite: it’s often the poorest and most dilapidated parts of the country, the underdeveloped parts. And what do these people do when the jobs have left and the opiates come in? They cling to religion and nationalism because those are the only existing forms of collectivism left. And in comes the Left huffing that they have to give that last little bit of collectivism up for “real” collectivism to be born.

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>>1857980
>And what's more, not only have the NuAtheists of the Aughts become reactionaries … Among many secular liberals, religion is used as the sin eater for liberalism's failures. Religion is portrayed as the evil seed from which all reactionary thought grows and is the perennial reason why liberalism continues to fail to live up to its promises
You have a strong point here. I think a lot of the New Atheist (or r/atheism) stuff retains a metaphysical form of thinking where religion comes in from the "outside" to corrupt humanity, rather than something generated from within human minds which are themselves shaped by the material conditions of societies (which seems more Marxist). Your descriptions of religions promising an "afterlife" in the here-and-now in the sleek, modern homes of the rich is also fascinating.

>So what was the the refutation of religion even supposed to change in these people if it doesn't even inoculate them against Zionism?

Well, a lot of early Zionists were secularists, some could've been atheists. This tends to confuse people because how can you be a secularist while retvrning to the holy land of the Bible? But a lot of those guys were thinking in terms of nationalism with the Bible being their national story (albeit rendered by ancient peoples in mythological terms), the superstitious stuff was not necessarily relevant. The kind of critical Biblical history where you go around to archeological digs to see what matched up to what's in the Bible and what didn't also became a fascination to these people in the 20th century. (They also used archeology to legitimize their land grabs.)

I recently learned about the Israeli general, Yigael Yadin, one of the commanders in the 1948 war, who was also an archaeologist and wrote such books (I was flipping through one of his based on ancient warfare in the region) that would try to fit the Biblical stories into a scientific context using modern discoveries. I don't know if he was an atheist or not, but he was a secularist. Isaac Asimov also wrote a book about the Bible that was similar. This is pretty distinct from American fundamentalists going around trying to find some fossilized piece of wood and calling it Noah's Ark, although it wouldn't surprise me if religious Zionists in Israel nowadays do sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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To go back to before Marx. Robespierre sought to supplant Christianity with a revolutionary religion that valorized the poor. It was his demand that Christians live like their savior, if they truly believed, that was viewed as intolerable to right of the Jacobins. Where the left, found it intolerable he felt religion was necessary at some level.

But Robespierre was correct. If religion is the painkiller as Marx saw it then its crime is that of hypocrisy not its sedating effect.
A hypocrisy woven into the very concept of grace and forgiveness in way which predominately benefits those who already hold power. So the answer isn't to destroy religion, its to remake it. Just as Pagans were assimilated by the Abrahamic faiths.

On mission, Georges Couthon ordered the destruction of churches to use their materials to build homes for the poor. In doing so, he provided a window into what true Christianity could have been.



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 No.1858028

>>1858015
That makes it way worse because China has unions. I was actually giving him the benefit of the doubt that he knew the most basic facts before bashing China and calling for sanctions and impoverishment of its workforce out of false concern for them. The point of attacking China (and Vietnam, if it gets out of line) is that it doesn’t have *independent* labor unions.

 No.1858031

>>1858016
>>1858022
>>1858028
Yes. So why not explain this to him instead of coming here to whine about independent labour unions?
Something we have to remember is that these people in america and on twitter and so on are fucking dumb, more often than not they just don't know things but are brought up in a culture that makes them arrogantly believe they can just will what they don't know out of the ether, to these people thinking up 'oh china does not have labour unions' is probably a completely valid form of knowledge gaining.
Truth is the weapon of the revolutionary, etc etc.

 No.1858034

>>1857782
retard

 No.1858037

>>1858031
I did explain it to him. He doesn’t care and I don’t expect him to. Because for years, the— really big air quotes here— “China critical” left has had unlimited control over the discourse on China, on the left, and undermined all opposition to the new Cold War and now we are seeing the fruits of this: extreme, unparalleled racist paranoia and hostility and profound ignorance of the reality of China by the entire U.S. polity as it uses hatred racism and xenophobia to dismantle progressivism, environmentalism, ban media platforms, ban open source technology, control and stymie research and countless other minor evils that accumulate everyday.

 No.1858133

>>1857976
I like how the reply to welfare state expansion is to tout wage growth, which of course is the classic conservative reply to why people don't need good government. Higher wages isn't a substitute for universal healthcare as Americans would know fully well. Who opposes the expansion of the Chinese welfare state, the unions?



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>>1853984
this one?
>>1856056
haha no prob it was a rly neat image :) take a look at the /meta/ moderation thread btw

 No.1856348

>>1856150
exactly that! thank you anon :D

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The Eternal Anglo AKA:
>Poms
>Blokes
>Whingers
>Les Goddams
>Redcoats
>Corgi Fuckers
>Ghost Men
>Inbred
>The Sunless
>Zionist's Favorite Demon
>Pringles
>Coal Children
>Tapeworms
>Angloman's Smile
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 No.1852043[Reply]

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators
Sorted by last name
>Paul Cockshott
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 No.1857585

>>1857565
most cloud migrations dont save money anyway thats largely just AWS propaganda that people who take their certifications are brainwashed into. Basically people are getting a certification in how to be an unpaid AWS salesman in their own company.

 No.1857991

>>1856049
Do you think this could replace Cockshott, Marketing of consumer
goods?

The equilibrium is achieved not by adapting to sold/labor spent -> 1,
but by users themselves changing jobs or working differently.

So for milk, the estimate function should return 1, or there will
not be enough milk for those who consume it. For mobile phones
estimate can be 5 years, a phone will be replaced once in 5 years.

There is no vouchers nor money. If a user wants more things he can
work more and see effects not just in aggregates. May be something
like this:

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>>1857204
C is the lingua franca of the computer world, and will remain so for many decades to come. Cope and Ceethe
>>1857207
>Shitty cope coming onky from retards who haven't wrote a single line of code in their lives
stop projecting so hard
>using a memory safe language
C is perfectly memory safe. all you need to do is define the machine appropriately. you pay for that memory safety in decreased performance however, which is unacceptable in many applications. HPC and video come to mind. you can write a BLAS implementation in Java but it won't be fast
people who whine about C are like people who whine about XML. junior developers who have not learned enough discipline

 No.1858087

>Python is scientific and we are scientific
Python is glue, CUDA is scientific

 No.1858130

>>1858068
>junior developers who have not learned enough discipline
most 21st century developers never even touch C anon, other than embedded and OS devs



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>>1857298
>Kavkazi people are mostly descendants of Turkic migrants
this is the absolute stupidest thing i have ever read on this fucking site
the peoples of the caucasus have been here unmoved since at least pre bronze age

 No.1858082

>>1857298
Who the fuck says kavkazi? No one does, even google just says that it's a prefix for jews from the area.

 No.1858108

>>1857275
>if we take that Greek philosophy is the foundation of the "civilization"

lol

 No.1858123

He's right you know:
Khaled Meshaal lauds pro-Palestine supporters
Speaking in Istanbul, Hamas’s former head says the group is grateful to those who have supported Palestine financially, or by demonstrating, engaging with the media or boycotting companies that support Israel.

“We are thankful to the student protests, which kicked off in American and European universities and erupted across the globe,” Meshaal said.

He also said that despite the calls for ending the war in Gaza, Israel continues to carry out crimes in both the besieged coastal enclave and occupied West Bank.

“The resistance is alive and well. The popular support is strong and embraces the resistance. The world itself is changing and Gaza has unearthed the face of people’s humanity. Our enemy is collapsing from within, its inner conflict causing it great frustration,” he added.

“We are standing before a historical moment, an opportunity to defeat Israel and to dismantle the Zionist project. We have an opportunity to change the world, and this needs perseverance and strength. Our nation needs to continue what it started on October 7. Do not give up. Do not say you are tired.”

 No.1858128

Israel on losing end in Gaza war: Former Mossad deputy chief
Israeli Knesset member and former Mossad deputy chief Ram Ben-Barak said the ongoing war in Gaza is “futile”, asserting that Israel is on the losing end and facing economic collapse.

“This war lacks a clear objective, and it’s evident that we’re unequivocally losing it,” Ben-Barak told Israeli public radio.

“We are forced to engage in fighting in the same areas and end up losing more soldiers. We’re also facing setbacks on the international stage, our relations with the US deteriorating significantly, and the Israeli economy in decline,” he said.

“Show me one thing we have succeeded in.”



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